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Reply · Quote ByteWarrior 2004-12-09, 16:02 #61
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My current vote would go for "pixelboard" then. Yours?
"Pixelboard" sounds good to me. As long as it's a PNG pixel. ;-)
Reply · Quote paul@onlinemarketing.co.uk (Guest) 2004-12-09, 17:54 #62
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Hi Yves,

Just looked at the board and its great, I am going to use it to build an online marketing portal in the UK.

From what I have seen of your product it fits into a specific niche that I am personally interested in, which is a professional looking, simple BB system.

The ability to make it look neat and professional and not look like a Vbulletin type interface appeals a lot to me and would so to a lot in my industry and also the e-learning industry.

Therefore (and correct me if I am wrong) I would say that a new name would be better if it was targeted at this audience with room for other markets to 'read into' the name.

So as for for your new name, here is my reasoning:

Pixelboard

It is catchy, and has a lot of playful qualities. Although the word pixel is not entirely relevant to what is essentially conversation and knowledge sharing.

Unclassified

Although more complex and less user friendly, this name makes me think of classification and the "un" makes me think that the software is not pulling me in any direction that i dont want to go in, i.e. "it would be up to me to classify the content"

My friend runs a knowldge sharing site called "participo.co.uk" Participo meaning "sharing" in Latin (i think, ......its a good name anyway). If I were to brand this project I would be tempted to run along those lines, to encompass the 'sharing' or 'community' based values of your project and not focus on whats already out there in the BB market.

My suggestions for your current names would be;

1, Unclassified
2, Pixelboard

My own idea would be;

Ordo

    or Ordo BB (also latin for class)
Short and consice, memorable and actually means something in latin, which will appeal to your intellectual bunch! (www.ordo .net is due for renewal too, you might be able to catch it)


I hope I havent confised things too much.

Best of luck

Paul Harwood
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Reply · Quote Sander (Guest) 2004-12-14, 19:31 #63
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Reply · Quote laserlight 2004-12-15, 17:41 #64
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Actually Yves, I remember you by your unclassified.de domain name, but my vote would go to pixelboard for the new name.
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Reply · Quote Yves (Administrator) 2004-12-15, 19:19 #65
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Subject: Intermediate decision
OK, time has come, let's put an end to this discussion. :-D First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who has made some (more or less innovative) suggestions for a new name for this newsboard. I must admit that I haven't found a really breaking and great name that will change the world with everything we know about it. But I like Paul's description of my last two suggestions and that the word "unclassified" itself can be interpreted in such a way. Also, some more Google research has made me feeling that "pixelboard" is more a thing which designers work with, not a news"board" in our sense. Also I was not planning to create a new domain name at any time, this newsboard will stay at home with a subdomain on unclassified.de for now, i.a. because it causes no additional charge for a second-level domain name. (.de is quite cheap here, but .net/.com are more expensive.)

So my intermediate decision has fallen on "unclassified newsboard". It might be abbreviated by "unb". The new URL will be newsboard.unclassified.de, the current subdomain will be forwarded transparently. I have checked the national trademarks registry and not found anything on the term "unclassified". Also the Google results may be quite good from the beginning on, due to the unchanged domain name. I haven't found a good logo idea yet, but it should include my proudly hand-drawn (on a real blackboard!) balloon from the current logo again. :) But I think the logo is a thing which can be changed at a later time again. The name is way more important.

Anyone got a serious reason why I should really not use this name?

I still need to update all source code files and the documentation. Then I need to setup the new subdomain and create a logo image which may also lead to a slightly changed website header design. After those changes, and when I hopefully got all the translations back, I'm planning to release version 1.5.3 of the then Unclassified Newsboard. You might want to play with it a little, I'm packing another development snapshot version again this evening.
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Reply · Quote halr9000 2004-12-15, 19:57 #66
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I've told this to Yves directly, but just for the sake of this thread, I like Unclassified Newsboard but you may want to consider making it Unclassified Forum for the reason that it is a more common descriptive word to describe what the software does.

Newsboard makes sense, it does fit, but people who are looking for forum software will type "forum software" into Google.  So if you stay with Newsboard, be sure to use the word "forum" liberally on the front page so that search engines will still find you.
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Reply · Quote spaceman 2004-12-16, 07:04 #67
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I like the word "Newsboard" as for being a little bit different from those ordinary lame "Forums" ;-)
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Reply · Quote paul@onlinemarketing.co.uk 2004-12-16, 10:47 #68
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Yves,

I think your reasoning is very logical and definately hits the mark for me.

Concerning Search engine optimisation, you are already ranked 8th in the world for the word 'unclassified' under google, so this would avoid you having to do any time consuming SEM campaign to get google listings on your brand name.

I am not sure whether you would think using targeted keywords for the growth of the project (such as 'bulletin board') would be neccesary at this stage? If a project like this grows too quickly then it can be swamped and then subsiquently forgotten. Its strength for me is the fact that you are heavily involved in the community and listen to people, thus creating a strong initial brand. I wonder whether this would be the case if you were to get thousands of posts rather than hundreds a month?

Also as you have registered this name probably a while ago, it is familiar to you. I must say that this is very important for anyone who owns a brand to familiarise themselves with its personality, implications and possibilities. Those who do end up doing many things right where others may fail.

Because of the slightly educational approach that the word 'blackboard' gave you, this project will appeal to people who want to share knowledge rather than just interests. The word 'unclassified' also lends itself to this community. This project could go very far and reach area's that VBulletin hasnt, especially in the corporate and academic worlds where good branding is more important than ever.

All said, you have a very stong initial brand and a good name that is relevant and invocative, which is underpinned by an excellent product.

Paul
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Reply · Quote paul@onlinemarketing.co.uk 2004-12-16, 11:24 #69
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Quote by paul@onlinemarketing.co.uk:
Its strength for me is the fact that you are heavily involved in the community and listen to people, thus creating a strong initial brand. I wonder whether this would be the case if you were to get thousands of posts rather than hundreds a month?


I forgot to mention that it can also cloud the products growth with increased demand for what I call "feature bloat".
 
But this is for another thread I know.
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Reply · Quote Yves (Administrator) 2004-12-16, 14:40 #70
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I wonder whether this would be the case if you were to get thousands of posts rather than hundreds a month?

I hope in that case, some of them might be able to help me with it? :rolleyes:
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Reply · Quote halr9000 2004-12-16, 14:51 #71
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Its strength for me is the fact that you are heavily involved in the community and listen to people, thus creating a strong initial brand.

Indeed.  You are so actively developing UNB I wonder where you get the time.  :)
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Reply · Quote halr9000 2004-12-16, 14:52 #72
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Quote by paul@onlinemarketing.co.uk:
I wonder whether this would be the case if you were to get thousands of posts rather than hundreds a month?

I hope in that case, some of them might be able to help me with it? :rolleyes:

That's what moderators are for...
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Reply · Quote paul@onlinemarketing.co.uk 2004-12-16, 15:39 #73
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Quote by halr9000:
That's what moderators are for...


Yes, but its not the same as getting it from the horses mouth! Mambo's forum is a good example of that. I have posted on there a number of times with quite simple problems but end up feeling like this >  :wand:
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Reply · Quote Yves (Administrator) 2004-12-16, 20:11 #74
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That's what moderators are for...

Yeah, sure. I try to get people for (official) moderators that actually have some knowledge about the board's interna and are really able to help others with their (common) problems. And they need to participate on this forum enough to decide whether something has already been discussed several times or it is a new thing to resolve.

I'm not blaming anyone to not know enough details about the board - it's my task to create a usable documentation about it first. Well, with more users I may see people meeting these 'requirements'. ;) And nonetheless can anybody (even guests just stumbling across this page) answer anyone's questions. (In case I'm not here for a while...)

On topic: I'm currently designing new graphics for the board. I already have a new logo which I will present to the public in a while. So stay tuned! :)
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Reply · Quote løde 2004-12-19, 21:42 #75
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Congratulations with the new name! It's cool like this, and definitely your style :)

I like the new logo, also because of the nice C which can be used as small logo now :) Good work!


On the index i'm still seeing the first forum (link back to "Blackboard homepage) and some other descriptions of forums having tje word Blackboard.

The new icons for forums are nice too, i like them, maybe an idea to also apply the new style into the topic incons?
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