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Yves (Administrator) #61
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The current development version is as "stable" as 1.6.3. Only that it contains a lot of bug fixes that make it better. It seems as long as the download page distinguishes between "stable" and "development" versions, it won't go into the users' heads that actually it's the same at some time.

The usual upgrading rules apply: http://newsboard.unclassified.de/docs/install#upgrade

No, I'm not familiar with Joomla, but I have someone working on that. I'm not sure what progress he made by now. But this would be a different topic.
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Quote by Yves:
The current development version is as "stable" as 1.6.3. Only that it contains a lot of bug fixes that make it better. It seems as long as the download page distinguishes between "stable" and "development" versions, it won't go into the users' heads that actually it's the same at some time.

The usual upgrading rules apply: http://newsboard.unclassified.de/docs/install#upgrade

No, I'm not familiar with Joomla, but I have someone working on that. I'm not sure what progress he made by now. But this would be a different topic.

Of course you're right.  Could you point me to that topic (or should I start one  ;-) )

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Yves (Administrator) #63
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There's no topic about Joomla integration, but I can pass your contact to the person I know.
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There's no topic about Joomla integration, but I can pass your contact to the person I know.

Thanks, Yves.  Let me know if I can be of service. The clients *DO* love this board, BTW and it is facilitating better project management than the email thing

Off Topic:
I like this Off Topic  formatting, BTW..I'm surprised it's not part of the help docs.

But getting back to the topic at hand though, I notice in my UNB site, the plug ins that I added, Calendar for instance, retain the settings of "$_ie7 = false", but when I go to extra pages here (beyond the forums like download page), I have the same resource intensive slow downs I used to have on the forums.   Could this have anything to do with the little IE warning script being included on those pages and not in the forums?  Or is there something else at work there?

Just wondering because it appears to me that if I add extra pages, I should be inheriting the CSS of the forums, right?  If this is just the way you have things set up on your extra pages, then I'm fine.
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Yves (Administrator) #65
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Yes, it is my IE warning script. When I removed it for IE7, pages were scrolled pretty fast, but they were also displayed totally wrong. So if I put in that warning, it looks good so that I wouldn't need it. But when I remove it, it looks wrong so that I need it again. This is not a stable state, so I decided to leave it in. IE sucks, no matter what. Let's wait for Windows Vienna in 2012, featuring Internet Explorer 8...

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Do you know my Windows 2010 report already? ;)
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Quote by Yves on 2007-03-17, 12:44:
Yes, it is my IE warning script. When I removed it for IE7, pages were scrolled pretty fast, but they were also displayed totally wrong. So if I put in that warning, it looks good so that I wouldn't need it. But when I remove it, it looks wrong so that I need it again. This is not a stable state, so I decided to leave it in. IE sucks, no matter what. Let's wait for Windows Vienna in 2012, featuring Internet Explorer 8...

Hey, if it bothers me that much I'll use Firefox  ;-) .  BTW, have advised globalnerd.org to upgrade and they have succesfully done so - making it much easier for me to participate there as well.

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Do you know my Windows 2010 report already? ;)

No, but I cracked up when I read it.  I tagged and reviewed it for StumbleUpon (also put in a plug for UNB in my review), so hopefully it will generate some more traffic.
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Hi

I can see that some solution may have been found.
You write something about $_ie7 = false and that it works on some computeren as I can understand it.

But I can't find that line anywhere... The only thing I can find is:
$ie7 = $UNB['Client']['b_class'] == 'ie' && $UNB['Client']['b_ver'] >= '7';
and that's $ie7 and not $_ie7

Where do I change this exactly ?
And is this the "solution" for now ? or is they a solution I have missed that will work everywhere ?
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Yves (Administrator) #68
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But I can't find that line anywhere... The only thing I can find is:

You need a newer version of UNB. 1.6.3 is stone-old and recent development versions are recommended over them. 1.6.4 is already in the pipeline and should be finished soon. It will basically be today's development version plus one or two additions.

And is this the "solution" for now ?

There is no better solution for Internet Explorer, I'm sorry. But this only affects the included default design. You can always create your own design that is more compatible with older browsers, as you wish. The mentioned solution is merely a "compatibility switch" for the existing design.
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I'm not sure I understand.

I currently run 1.6.2 but I have a 1.6.3 testing at the moment, and non of them have the descripted script..
Isn't 1.6.3 the newest available version... ?

So in what version do I find the script $_ie7=false ?
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There are two versions of UNB: stable and More current development version.
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Two branches, to be more precise. :) I believe that's the word they use for it.
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Yeah, you're right. :-p

Off Topic:
BTW I've just installed Safari for Windows (that browser from Mac) and it renders UNB pages mostly good. :-) It's even faster then FF. :D
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Yves (Administrator) #73
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That's what I've read. Faster but still less stable. Let's wait for a final to evaluate it.
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??? So when I run the 1.6.3 version which I see as the newest version for download, it is in fact not the newest version ???
So I need to download something else to get a newer version or ???

I really don't understand...
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More current development version at http://newsboard.unclassified.de/download says it all.  An exhaustive explanation can be found there, too...
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