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Rumbelstilzchen 2005-10-04, 14:52 #76

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on the registry page I want to have an changed text, when I add something like

<a href="http://myserver/Forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=2">Forum-Regeln</a>

After that my Firefox can't open the registry page anymore, but in IE it works

In Firefox I get this message:

XML-Verarbeitungsfehler: nicht wohlgeformt Adresse: http://myserver/Forum/forum.php?req=register Zeile Nr. 68, Spalte 2039: <link ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------^

The error-log says nothing about it.

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- I know it's simple - can you, Yves, add a simple feature of not daily, but global counter anywhere in footer? It's boring to change your script everytime when you're giving us new version of script... some lines of code, one settings in control panel to changing value and it's all

PLEASE!

- I think 13px is too big font as a standard. I tried to change it to lower value and ok, it's working, but it seems it looks not perfect.... please, look at attachment. I've using (and some of my users too) resolution 1280x1024 and opinion is "13px is to big". I don't want to know how 13px looks in 1024x768 or, terrible, 800x600! I suggest two different styles - one for top-bar, and second for posts. It's more flexible as now

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I'm not a webdeveloper but maybe it would be better to declare font size in 'em' units? http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/font-size#goodpractice

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I'm not a webdeveloper but maybe it would be better to declare font size in 'em' units? http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/font-size#goodpractice

cssconfig.php in style-folder looks similiar like that below (I make some changes):

// UNB 1.6 defaults: (padding-bottom: 3px)
$UNB['Font']['family'] = 'Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif';
$UNB['Font']['size'] = '10px'; // 10pt
$UNB['Font']['smallsize'] = '0.9em'; // 8pt

// Mac OS X defaults: (padding-bottom: 3px)
#$UNB['Font']['family'] = 'Lucida Grande, Arial Unicode MS, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif';
#$UNB['Font']['size'] = '10px';
#$UNB['Font']['smallsize'] = '0.9em';

// UNB 1.5 defaults: (padding-bottom indefinite)
#$UNB['Font']['family'] = 'Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif';
#$UNB['Font']['size'] = '10pt';
#$UNB['Font']['smallsize'] = '7pt';

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Hi!

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<a href="http://myserver/Forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=2">Forum-Regeln</a>

Replace all & with & in the URL.

@smile: The current font size is perfect, if you want something else, change it yourself

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@smile: The current font size is perfect, if you want something else, change it yourself

I'll try to do it, but I don't know how to do it now - actual structure of forum is little different from this I know from 1.5.x and it may take some time. But if these value is in CSS, it means, I can change it - and there is problem after doing that.

Other suggestion - I know, UNB is very modern etc. but I'm not sure avatars on right side is good choice. Most people are reading from left to right, avatar gives us a chance to faster user identification than finding his name.

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Rumbelstilzchen 2005-10-04, 18:07 #82

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Quote by Rumbelstilzchen:
<a href="http://myserver/Forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=2">Forum-Regeln</a>

Replace all & with & in the URL.

I'm sorry there is still the same problem. As long as there is an "&" inside the link, I get an error-message

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jagdfalke 2005-10-04, 18:46 #83

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Quote by smile:
I'll try to do it, but I don't know how to do it now - actual structure of forum is little different from this I know from 1.5.x and it may take some time. But if these value is in CSS, it means, I can change it - and there is problem after doing that.

First have a look at the forum root. You got the directories docs, extra and unb_lib. unb_lib is the logical choice.
In unb_lib, you will quickly notice a directory called designs. Within it, there is a dir called modern, which contains, amogst others, a dir called css (which will contain font size definitions, as you should know.)
A currently (as it seems) undocumented feature is creating a file unb_lib/designs/css.user.php, which should be included in any theme. There you can override you font settings, too.

Other suggestion - I know, UNB is very modern etc. but I'm not sure avatars on right side is good choice. Most people are reading from left to right, avatar gives us a chance to faster user identification than finding his name.

I would claim that this is also an issue people should solve by creating there own themes!
The current standard theme is Yves' personal creation and I think that he should really be free to do layouting details the way he likes. I know that you only made a suggestion, but this thread somehow tends to sound a bit like alarmed chickens running through their cage to me :-D

(shall we keep this thing, shouldn't we keep that thing etc)

Nevertheless best regards,
Milan

ps: don't think it is a good idea to post each and any issue with the RC in this single thread. There are supposed to be a lot, after all

Yves

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I haven't been at home today. Here's a collective reply:

Quote by H.Humpel:
When composing a new thread or reply the TAB-functionality is a bit "lost" now.

Oh yes, I forgot that. The tabindex settings still need to be done.

Quote by Rumbelstilzchen:
1. Ich finde kein Pulldown-Menü mehr für die Design auswahl

Macht auch irgendwie keinen Sinn, wenn nur ein einziges Design installiert ist... Füge ein weiteres Design hinzu und es wird wieder erscheinen.

2. Es gibt keinen Link zu den Log-Dateien
3. ich finde Datenbank überprüfen nicht

Kommt beides noch im Final.

Wegen dem Update von 1.5.3a
Mir ist aufgfallen, dass die usercfg.php in user.config.php umbenannt wurde, auserdem hat sich auch die Syntax geändert statt z.B. $img heißt es jetzt UNB. Weiß nicht ob das die Update-Rutine schafft, ich hab's jedenfalls alles händisch nachgetragen

Nein, das stimmt, muss von Hand geändert werden. Diese Dateien werden nicht angerührt. Wenn man sie nicht verändert, hat der Inhalt aber auch einfach nur keinen Einfluss.

Quote by Rumbelstilzchen:
Was ich noch vergessen hab' bei mir gehen diese Code-Tasten unterhalb des Eingabefensters immer noch nicht.
Benutze FX1.0.7 auf Win98

Schalt mal JavaScript ein. Ansonsten haben die im Firefox keine weiteren Abhängigkeiten. Wenn's nicht hilft, erstell dir mal ein neues Browser-Profil. Die Dinger gehen gerne kaputt.

Quote by Rumbelstilzchen:
Also das "ß" kann er definitiv nicht importieren, alle anderen Umlaute sind korrekt

Keine Ahnung. Schau dir mal die Originaldatenbank an, ob die "ß" da korrekt codiert sind. An der Zeichencodierung hab ich aber nichts verändert, und das werd ich wohl auch nicht mehr tun. UTF-8 ist doch gut.

Quote by smile:
- forum looks strange in IE - I know, IE and W3C are old enemies, but IE is a standard for whole people... look... IE on top, Firefox lower.

Internet Explorer is not supported any more than this. Sorry, I cannot change it. See my previous post on this.

-is a possibility to add "user title" near nickname, without pulling down special features? it's better for me to show "user title" in place where now is presented "administrator" or "moderator". it's not important for us who is who administrator or user - it's the same for us title - it's element which can be used for identification, forum with this is more familiar...

Sure. Edit the "post.html" template accordingly. But be aware that there's not so much space up there...

- is a possibility to switch on smilies in post editing for default?

Not right now. Maybe I'll still do that. It's on my TODO list.

Quote by Rumbelstilzchen:
Mir ist aufegfallen, dass du die Smilie-Befehle ins englische übersetzt hast, also funktionieren die alten nicht mehr oder man muss manuell die *.php anpassen, wäre nett wenn du das direkt machen könntest Yves - das prob dürften mehrere haben, die updaten.

Dafür habe ich momentan kein Update vorgesehen. Du kannst entweder die paar wenigen Smilies in der Definitionsdatei umbenennen, oder dir einfach denken, was soll's, jetzt ändern sie sich nicht mehr. Das war Teil meiner Aufräumaktion, jetzt haben sie endlich mal vernünftige Namen.

In English:
Rumbelstilzchen, there's no update planned right now for the renamed smilies. You can either change their names in the according definition file or think, why should you care, now the names won't change for a long time.

Quote by davidm:
Where did you get 1.6RC1 ???
By 1.6RC1 do you mean unb.devel.20051003.zip ?

It's the same, yes, but there's also a download link for RC 1. Maybe a little hidden...

This being said, we should be able to give Yves some help about those CSS issues... one thing that would speed up the process is use browsershots It's free and as efficient as BrowserCam, for those who did not know it...

Maybe someone even wants to create a new design for the board that is more compatible with Internet Exploder? OR that just looks differently? Now we have structured CSS files, HTML templates and all that. Go be creative.

Fyi, I'm currently not planning to make another design for UNB 1.6+. So we certainly won't re-create the same things.

Quote by smile:
[edit]: Yves, when I'm clicking on thread name in sub-forum view, there is no 'jump' to new posts in this thread. tested on ie6.0/ff1.0.7

Means what?

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adjoining posts have the same background colour which makes it a little bit harder to see where the post starts and ends. It seems to be some kind of regresion when compared to UNB 1.5.3

Good point. I'm going to think about it.

Later more, time for some food.

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Quote by gajownik:
May someone take a look at the announcement in this subforum ? http://newsboard.unclassified.de/forum/6 ? It looks like a bug in ABBC parser or in the upgrade script.

Done. I've added the [mod] tag and that confused the parser now.

Quote by Rumbelstilzchen:
<a href="http://myserver/Forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=2">Forum-Regeln</a>
After that my Firefox can't open the registry page anymore, but in IE it works

You must create valid XHTML.

Firefox knows what that is, as well as any other browser. IE doesn't and thus doesn't care about that invalid markup but just tries to render the tag soup anyhow, as usual.

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- I know it's simple - can you, Yves, add a simple feature of not daily, but global counter anywhere in footer?

What do you mean by this? What do you want to have counted there?

- I think 13px is too big font as a standard. I tried to change it to lower value and ok, it's working, but it seems it looks not perfect.... please, look at attachment. I've using (and some of my users too) resolution 1280x1024 and opinion is "13px is to big". I don't want to know how 13px looks in 1024x768 or, terrible, 800x600! I suggest two different styles - one for top-bar, and second for posts. It's more flexible as now

Ok, my opinion is that 13px is default for good readability. Mac OS X's default is somewhere around this and I like it. UNB 1.5 has 11px and it was sometimes a little small, especially with wider browser windows. Also the screen resolution in absolute pixel dimensions has absolutely no effect on the relative font size. Take an XGA (1024x768px) image on a beamer with 4m image size. You should be able to read it very well. Now take some of those new WXGA (1280x768px) notebook screens with 10 inch size. Close to invisible there. Of course you need to select a reasonable screen resolution for your monitor size.

To create a new design, just copy the present directory, change the last some lines in the config.php file to other font sizes and you have your new design.

The problem with the navigation bar comes from somewhere around the images I put next to the links. When the font gets too small, the images get too high and it will look strange. If you remove those images from the navigation links (you should be able to use the navlinks demo plug-in to alter that array, otherwise you'll find them in the UnbBeginHTML() function) it should work with any font size.

Quote by gajownik:
I'm not a webdeveloper but maybe it would be better to declare font size in 'em' units? http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/font-size#goodpractice

Font sizes are specified in em unit. Only the top-most size is specified in px unit, for the only reason that every browser on this world (on every computer) would display it in another size otherwise. Most browsers are set to too big fonts, probably Firefox (16px) more than Internet Exploder (unknown size). If someone (like me) sets this to a more reasonable value (like 12px), they will see pages that were optimised for the wrongly big font size way too small. You see? There's no solution to it other than absolute font sizes. Whoever suggests "good practice".

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$UNB['Font']['family'] = 'Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif';
$UNB['Font']['size'] = '10px'; // 10pt

Wow, now that's tiny. Besides that 10px is not 10pt. (That would be 11px.)

Quote by iGEL:
@smile: The current font size is perfect, if you want something else, change it yourself

Btw, this support forum uses another font and size than the release version. I have changed it here to fit to the website. Its primary font is 12px Lucida Grande which itself is smaller than Verdana. Default on Mac OS X. Doesn't look as well on Windows but it's ok, too.

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Quote by iGEL:
@smile: The current font size is perfect, if you want something else, change it yourself

I'll try to do it, but I don't know how to do it now - actual structure of forum is little different from this I know from 1.5.x and it may take some time. But if these value is in CSS, it means, I can change it - and there is problem after doing that.

You have already quoted the relevant code for global font sizes before.

Other suggestion - I know, UNB is very modern etc. but I'm not sure avatars on right side is good choice. Most people are reading from left to right, avatar gives us a chance to faster user identification than finding his name.

I know but on the right side there's more space for this.

Quote by jagdfalke:
I would claim that this is also an issue people should solve by creating there own themes!

Yes, create designs, designs, designs! I want to see a lot of them ready for UNB 1.6 final release in some weeks!

ps: don't think it is a good idea to post each and any issue with the RC in this single thread. There are supposed to be a lot, after all

Yeah, but I won't split that off now. If people want everything in one thread, they got to search for their replies in there... This time.

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Means what?

hmm... ok.

example: I see new post in any thread (main view). I go to this subforum. I see list of threads, some of them has a new posts. I click on subject of thread with new post - I should be redirected to new post in this thread. But I'm on top of page only.

PS. I've enabled "Fast reply" option, but I didn't see any effects

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Quote by smile:
I click on subject of thread with new post - I should be redirected to new post in this thread. But I'm on top of page only.

PS. I've enabled "Fast reply" option, but I didn't see any effects

Problem: You have JavaScript disabled.
Solution: Enable JavaScript in your browser.

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Java jre1.5.0_02, FF 1.0.7 - Java enabled, not working. Opera 8.50 - the same problem (fresh installation, Java enabled).

PS. What about "Fast reply" ?

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Quote by smile:
Java jre1.5.0_02, FF 1.0.7 - Java enabled, not working. Opera 8.50 - the same problem (fresh installation, Java enabled).

PS. What about "Fast reply" ?

JavaSCRIPT. Is is something totally different. I don't like nor use Java (the one without the "script"). Both the features you mentioned use JavaScript which should have been obvious when I tell you you have to turn it on.

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JavaSCRIPT.

My fault, sorry. I was thinking about JavaScript. Hmmm...

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